Trump on Musk Scaling Back from DOGE: 'Incredible Guy, Great Patriot -- $200 Billion in Savings'; Bannon: 'Bessent Is a Safe Pair of Hands'
Trump on Musk Scaling Back from DOGE: “Incredible Guy, Great Patriot — $200 Billion in Savings”; Bannon: “Bessent Is a Safe Pair of Hands”
President Trump reacted to Elon Musk’s planned scaling back from DOGE with an extended tribute in April 2025: “I can’t speak more highly about any individual. He’s an incredible guy, brilliant, a wonderful person. He’s a great patriot.” Trump cited “almost $200 billion and rising fast” in DOGE savings and defended Musk against Tesla boycotts: “They took it out on Tesla. I thought it was so unfair because he’s trying to help the country.” He noted Musk “was always at this time going to ease out.” Separately, Steve Bannon praised Treasury Secretary Bessent as “a safe pair of hands” who “understands capital markets deeply,” while claiming: “If Howard Lutnick had been Secretary of the Treasury, it would have been an unmitigated disaster. This is about people putting their own interests first, like Elon, versus putting the nation’s interests first."
"I Can’t Speak More Highly”
Trump’s tribute to Musk was among the most generous he had offered any figure in his political career.
“I can’t speak more highly about any individual,” Trump began. “He’s an incredible guy. He’s a brilliant guy. He’s a wonderful person.”
He added the personal dimension: “I’ve seen him with his family. I’ve seen him with a lot of his children. He’s got a lot of children. He treats them good. He loves his children.”
He cited the DOGE results: “He was a tremendous help, both in the campaign and in what he’s done with DOGE. We’re talking about almost $200 billion and rising fast, because many of the things that we were looking at are now being found out to be fact.”
He described what DOGE had uncovered: “The fraud, the waste, the abuse, the everything that’s happened is just terrible.”
He defended Musk against the backlash: “I also know that he was treated very unfairly by the — I guess you’d call it the public, by some of the public, not by all of it.”
He addressed the Tesla boycott: “I say he makes an incredible car. Everything he does is good. But they took it out on Tesla. I just thought it was so unfair because he’s trying to help the country.”
Trump’s statement that Musk “didn’t need to do this” was the core of his defense. Musk was the world’s wealthiest person, the CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, and multiple other companies, and a man who could have spent his time expanding his business empire. Instead, he had volunteered to comb through federal spending, identify waste and fraud, and endure a political backlash that damaged his most consumer-facing business.
The “$200 billion and rising fast” figure represented the cumulative DOGE savings that had been identified through contract terminations, workforce reductions, and fraud identification. Trump’s note that the savings were “rising fast” suggested that as DOGE dug deeper into federal spending, it was finding more waste than initially projected.
”He Was Always Going to Ease Out”
Trump framed Musk’s departure as planned rather than forced.
“I heard him say that he’ll start easing, which is always — he was always at this time going to ease out,” Trump said.
He expressed his preference: “I told him, I said, you know, whenever you’re ready, I’d like to keep him for a long time, but whenever you’re ready.”
He connected it to Musk’s other work: “We have to at some point let him go and do that. And we expected to be doing it about this time.”
He committed to continued conversation: “I’ll talk to Elon about it.”
The characterization of the departure as pre-planned addressed speculation that Musk was being pushed out due to political pressure or internal conflicts. Trump’s account suggested that both men had always understood DOGE as a time-limited engagement — that Musk would come in, identify the waste, establish the systems for ongoing reform, and then return to his companies.
SpaceX and the Rocket Defense
Trump pivoted to Musk’s technological achievements to contextualize his value.
“When you see those rockets go up and come back and land in the same gantry, nobody else can do that but this man,” Trump said.
He continued: “He’s just an incredible person and he’s a friend of mine and he’s a nice person too.”
He added: “He makes a great product, it’s a great car. It’s great everything. Starlink is great. What he does is good. He’s doing medical things that are amazing.”
Trump’s reference to SpaceX’s rocket recovery — the Falcon 9 and Starship boosters that returned to their launch pads with unprecedented precision — was his strongest argument for Musk’s exceptional value. No other person or organization on Earth had achieved what SpaceX had accomplished. The same engineering genius and organizational ability that made rockets land on their launch pads had been applied to federal waste identification through DOGE.
Bannon: “Safe Pair of Hands”
Steve Bannon provided a candid assessment of the administration’s economic team dynamics.
“Bessent has maybe become — do you think he is now the most important player on that economic team?” an interviewer asked.
Bannon assessed: “Not running the economy, but he’s a safe pair of hands that understands capital markets deeply. He’s done this for 30 years.”
He described Bessent’s value: “He has a very strong sense of what markets need to hear as far as information goes.”
Bannon then revealed internal conflict: “Remember, the first big fight we had with Elon was over — Elon pushed Howard Lutnick and Bannon in War Room pushed Scott Bessent. And that got very nasty in Mar-a-Lago.”
He described the leaks: “They leaked all kinds of stuff about Scott that was not true.”
He explained his reasoning: “For what President Trump’s trying to do on trade, on tariffs, on taxes, on national security, you’re going to need a steady Eddie that the markets can sit there and go, ‘that guy’s telling me the truth. I may not like it, but he’s telling me the truth.’ That’s Scott Bessent.”
He delivered the counterfactual: “And I’ll be blunt. If Howard Lutnick had been Secretary of the Treasury, it would have been an unmitigated disaster.”
He stated the principle: “This is about people putting their own interests first, like Elon, versus putting the nation’s interests first.”
Bannon’s candid discussion of the Bessent-Lutnick fight revealed the internal dynamics that shaped the administration’s economic team. The battle for the Treasury Secretary position had been one of the most consequential personnel decisions of the transition. Bannon’s claim that Bessent’s appointment had prevented “an unmitigated disaster” validated the argument that personnel choices were policy choices.
The “safe pair of hands” characterization was the highest compliment Bannon could offer. In a period of tariff-induced market volatility, trade negotiations with every major economy, and fundamental restructuring of American economic policy, the markets needed a Treasury Secretary who projected competence and truthfulness. Bessent’s decades of experience in capital markets gave him the credibility to calm nerves that a less experienced appointee would have inflamed.
Key Takeaways
- Trump on Musk: “I can’t speak more highly about any individual. He’s incredible, brilliant, a great patriot.” DOGE savings cited at “almost $200 billion and rising fast.”
- On Tesla boycotts: “They took it out on Tesla. So unfair — he’s trying to help the country. He makes a great product.”
- Musk’s departure was planned: “He was always at this time going to ease out. We expected it about this time.”
- Bannon on Bessent: “A safe pair of hands that understands capital markets. Markets need to hear truth — that’s Scott Bessent.”
- Bannon on Lutnick: “If he had been Treasury Secretary, it would have been an unmitigated disaster.”