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Hawley: "For Heaven's Sake, Would Not Say It's Grossly Inappropriate" — Won't Support Nomination

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Hawley: "For Heaven's Sake, Would Not Say It's Grossly Inappropriate" — Won't Support Nomination

Hawley: “For Heaven’s Sake, Would Not Say It’s Grossly Inappropriate” — Won’t Support Nomination

Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) closed his July 2023 hearing exchange with a Biden judicial nominee by expressing stunned disbelief at the nominee’s refusal to characterize FBI Catholic parish monitoring as inappropriate. Hawley framed the request: “I’m asking you whether or not you can say as a jurist, as a lawyer, as a member of the bar, as an American, whether this is appropriate to be recruiting informants in Catholic churches, to be using federal government resources to go after clergy in Catholic churches, to be designating and treating members of Catholic parishes as terrorists.” Hawley dramatized core distress: “I cannot believe your answers… I can’t believe anybody who would come before this committee would look at this and look at what they have tried to do and just listen to the Attorney General for heaven’s sake and would not say it’s grossly inappropriate.” Hawley closed: “I cannot support your nomination.”

The Anything I Would Discussed

  • Nominee framing: “Anything that I would have discussed.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing positioned procedural defense.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Not Asking That

  • Hawley framing: “I’m not asking you that.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized procedural correction.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The As Jurist Lawyer American

  • Hawley framing: “I’m asking you whether or not you can say as a jurist, as a lawyer, as a member of the bar, as an American.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing extended professional roles.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Recruiting Catholic Informants

  • Hawley framing: “Whether this is appropriate to be recruiting informants in Catholic churches, to be using federal government resources to go after clergy in Catholic churches.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized core conduct.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Designating As Terrorists

  • Hawley framing: “To be designating and treating members of Catholic parishes as terrorists.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized terrorism designation.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Not Discussed

  • Nominee framing: “Senator, again, based upon my experience at the FBI, this was not something that we ever discussed.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing positioned non-knowledge.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Not Appropriate Comment

  • Nominee framing: “I’ve never seen that memo before. It would not be appropriate for me to comment.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing positioned procedural defense.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Cannot Believe Answers

  • Hawley framing: “I cannot believe your answers.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized incredulity.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Anybody Come Before Committee

  • Hawley framing: “I can’t believe anybody who would come before this committee would look at this and look at what they have tried to do.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized core characterization.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Listen To Attorney General

  • Hawley framing: “And just listen to the Attorney General for heaven’s sake.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing referenced AG framing.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Grossly Inappropriate

  • Hawley framing: “And would not say it’s grossly inappropriate. This should never happen.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing positioned absolute characterization.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Absolutely Stunned

  • Hawley framing: “I’m absolutely stunned by this.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized personal reaction.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The Cannot Support Nomination

  • Hawley framing: “And for that reason, among others, I cannot support your nomination.”
  • Editorial reach: The framing dramatized vote commitment.
  • Hearing record: The framing is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The framing fed broader debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to coverage.

The FBI Richmond Memo

  • Editorial reach: FBI Richmond memo on Catholic parishes was central to controversy.
  • Hearing record: The FBI Richmond memo context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The Richmond memo continued to be referenced.
  • Long arc: The Richmond memo shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: The Richmond memo fed broader debates.

The Catholic Monitoring Layer

  • Editorial reach: FBI Catholic parish monitoring was central to Republican concerns.
  • Hearing record: The Catholic monitoring context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: Catholic monitoring continued through 2024.
  • Long arc: Catholic monitoring shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: Catholic monitoring fed broader debates.

The Latin Mass Reference

  • Editorial reach: Latin Mass parishes were specifically targeted by Richmond memo.
  • Hearing record: The Latin Mass context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: Latin Mass continued to be referenced.
  • Long arc: Latin Mass shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: Latin Mass fed broader debates.

The Garland Testimony Layer

  • Editorial reach: Garland testified the FBI Catholic memo conduct was inappropriate.
  • Hearing record: The Garland testimony context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: Garland testimony continued to be referenced.
  • Long arc: Garland testimony shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: Garland testimony fed broader debates.

The Senate Judiciary Layer

  • Editorial reach: Senate Judiciary held jurisdictional oversight.
  • Hearing record: The Senate Judiciary context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: Senate Judiciary continued through 2024.
  • Long arc: Senate Judiciary shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: Senate Judiciary fed broader debates.

The Republican Critique

  • Editorial reach: Republicans cite FBI Catholic monitoring as overreach.
  • Hearing record: The Republican critique context is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: The critique continued through 2024.
  • Long arc: The critique shaped subsequent debates.
  • Long arc: The critique fed broader debates.

The Hawley Public Posture

  • Senate role: Hawley held Senate Judiciary role.
  • Editorial reach: Hawley’s posture shaped Republican critique.
  • Hearing record: Hawley’s posture is now in the formal record.
  • Long arc: Hawley continued to be central through 2024.
  • Long arc: Hawley shaped subsequent debates.

The Public Communication Layer

  • Soundbite design: The exchange was structured for clip distribution.
  • Documentary value: The hearing record now contains a clean Hawley framing.
  • Media uptake: The clip moved on conservative media as a Republican response argument.
  • Audience targeting: Hawley’s style is built for retail political distribution.
  • Long arc: The framing remained central to Republican messaging through 2024.

The 2024 Implications

  • Election positioning: Both parties used judicial nominees for 2024 positioning.
  • Religious liberty: Religious liberty became central in 2024 coverage.
  • Long arc: The episode will shape religious liberty debates through 2024 and beyond.
  • Hearing legacy: The hearing record will be cited in future religious liberty debates.
  • Long arc: The framing remains in circulation.

Key Takeaways

  • Hawley pressed nominee to characterize FBI Catholic memo as inappropriate.
  • Nominee declined to comment on memo.
  • Hawley framed core question as jurist/lawyer/American assessment.
  • Hawley dramatized “absolutely stunned” reaction.
  • Hawley closed: “I cannot support your nomination.”
  • The exchange dramatized FBI religious liberty politics.

Transcript Highlights

The following quotations are drawn from an AI-generated Whisper transcript of the hearing and should be considered unverified pending official transcript release.

  • “I’m asking you whether or not you can say as a jurist, as a lawyer, as a member of the bar, as an American, whether this is appropriate to be recruiting informants in Catholic churches” — Hawley
  • “To be designating and treating members of Catholic parishes as terrorists. Is that appropriate or not?” — Hawley
  • “I’ve never seen that memo before. It would not be appropriate for me to comment” — nominee
  • “I cannot believe your answers” — Hawley
  • “Just listen to the Attorney General for heaven’s sake and would not say it’s grossly inappropriate. This should never happen. I’m absolutely stunned by this” — Hawley
  • “And for that reason, among others, I cannot support your nomination” — Hawley

Full transcript: 180 words transcribed via Whisper AI.

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