#shorts On 1/6/2023, Fox News White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich asked Biden Spokesman John Kirby, “I understand what the objective is, obviously. But as the pilot program with Venezuela was happening and did reduce the number of crossings by 90 percent over those first few weeks that it was in place, the number of got-aways did skyrocket too at the same time. And so my question is: Does the fact that if you cross illegally, it makes you ineligible for this program — does that now disincentivize people to turn themselves in and then make part of this problem harder?

MR. KIRBY: It’s difficult for me to get in the mind of every individual that may have — may have already crossed over illegally, though what they ought to know is that we are going to be making sure that we’re increasing our ability to enforce these policies …

Q: got-aways did skyrocket last time; A: difficult for me to get in the mind of everyone