GOP lawmakers ask Gordon Sondland, Laura Cooper & David Hale questions in Trump impeachment hearing


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After America’s ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland testified in the Trump impeachment hearings, Trump told reporters: “I just noticed one thing, and I would say, that means it’s all over.” Re-enacting his conversation with Sondland: “So here’s my answer: ‘I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zelensky to do the right thing.”

In this Nov. 20 2019 video, GOP lawmakers Elise Stefanik, Jim Jordan, Chris Stewart, Michael Turner, Steve Castor, Mike Conaway and Devin Nunes ask Gordon Sondland, Laura Cooper & David Hale questions in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment hearings.

GOP Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, asked Sondland, “Well, you know, after you testified, Chairman Schiff ran out and gave a press conference and said, he gets to impeach the president of the United States because of your testimony. And if you pull up CNN today, right now, their banner says “Sondland Ties Trump to Withholding Aid.”

Gordon Sondland answered: “I have said repeatedly, Congressman, I was presuming.”

Turner: “So no one told you, not just the president. Giuliani didn’t tell you, Mulvaney didn’t tell you — nobody — Pompeo didn’t tell you, nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations; is that correct?”

Gordon Sondland: “I think I already testified to that.”

Rep. Mike Turner: “No, answer the question. Is it correct, no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations? Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman’s wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no? ”

Gordon Sondland: “Yes.”

Turner: ” So, you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations?”

Gordon Sondland: “Other than my own presumption.”

Rep. Mike Turner: “Which is nothing.”
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Full Transcript:

Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio: Is Donald Trump your friend?

Gordon Sondland: No, we’re not friends. I — we have a…

Rep. Mike Turner: Do you like the president?

Gordon Sondland: Yes.

Rep. Mike Turner: OK. Well, you know, after you testified, Chairman Schiff ran out and gave a press conference and said, he gets to impeach the president of the United States because of your testimony. And if you pull up CNN today, right now, their banner says “Sondland Ties Trump to Withholding Aid.”

Is that your testimony today, Mr. — Ambassador Sondland, that you have evidence that Donald Trump tied the investigations to the aid? Because I don’t think you’re saying that.

Gordon Sondland: I have said repeatedly, Congressman, I was presuming. I also said that President Trump…

Rep. Mike Turner: So no one told you, not just the president. Giuliani didn’t tell you, Mulvaney didn’t tell you — nobody — Pompeo didn’t tell you, nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations; is that correct?

Gordon Sondland: I think I already testified to that.

Rep. Mike Turner: No, answer the question. Is it correct, no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations? Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman’s wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?

Gordon Sondland: Yes.

Rep. Mike Turner: So, you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations?

Gordon Sondland: Other than my own presumption.

Rep. Mike Turner: Which is nothing. I mean, that’s what I don’t understand. So you know what hearsay evidence is, Ambassador? Hearsay is when I testify what someone else told me. Do you know what made-up testimony is? Made-up testimony is when I just presume it.

I mean, you’re just assuming all of these things, and then you’re giving them the evidence that they’re running out and doing press conferences, and CNN’s headline is saying that you’re saying the president of the United States should be impeached because he tied to investigations. And you don’t know that, correct?

Gordon Sondland: I never said the president of the United States should be impeached.

Rep. Mike Turner: Nope, but you did — you have left people with the confusing impression that you were giving testimony that you did not. You do not have any evidence that the president of the United States was tied to withholding aid from Ukraine in exchange for investigations.

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